GREAT JOB ON ALL THE PERSONAL RECORDs (PR's) THAT WERE SET TODAY.
on another note, there are a couple items i'd like to address and now is a good time, otherwise i'll forget to bring it up:
1) leave your ego at the door. just because someone has a heavier lift or faster time than you doesn't always mean that you can outlift them or get a faster time. if you're first instinct is to look on the board to find the heaviest lift and tell yourself "im gonna beat that" then you either have an insecurity issue or an attitude problem. the reason this is a negative quality is because it fosters the exact attitude we will not stand for in this gym. secondly, its a quick way to get yourself some rhabdo or seriously hurt. its one thing to be highly competitive and confident and another to be the opposite end of that spectrum.
2) strength to weight ratio. there were some heavy lifts today. what you want to look at is the bodyweight of the individuals and compare that to the weight they moved. if a 125lb person can lift 2x their bodyweight, that tells me that he/she is very strong pound for pound. if a 260lb person can only lift over half their bodyweight then clearly, pound for pound, he/she isn't as strong as the 125lb person even though they might have had a heavier load. strength to weight ratio...google it.
When comparing the performance (or "strength") between two athletes, there is more that need be considered than simply body weight and mass lifted. The height must also be taken into consideration, as there is considerable difference between someone who is 6 ft tall and 150lbs vs 5 ft tall and 150 lbs. you would never call somebody "fat" b/c they weigh 175 lbs without knowing their height. Thus we use the "Body mass index" (weight per unit height) to classify body habitus. height plays a significant role in powerlifting in both mechanical advantage as well as work/power output. Remeber from physics that work=force x distance. Taller atheltes have to make the [weight] travel farther and excert more work for a given lift compared to their shorter counterpart. As one can see, comparing strength fairly and objectively is very difficult. Use the performance of others to guide your own performance and not to conclude who is stronger or faster.
good point dr j. range of motion is definitely a factor in comparing strength. as you stated, this comes more into play when discussing power. so whats the difference between strength and power?
strength - ability of a muscle to apply force (either lifting, pushing or pulling).
power - ability of a muscle to apply MAXIMUM force in MINIMUM time.
so what does that mean? an example of strength is a 1RM deadlift. an example of power is 10 reps of 75% your 1RM deadlift in a given time, or more easily put, how quickly you can demonstrate your strength.
as dr j stated earlier, someone who has a longer range of motion has to exert more work in order to move a load from point A to point B. if two people weigh the same but one is taller than the other, the tallest person will for the most part have to work harder than the shorter person.
case in point: billy and todd both weigh 175lbs. billy is 6ft and todd is 5'7. they both do 'cindy' for a workout which is a 20 minute amrap triplet consisting of 5 pull ups, 10 push ups and 15 squats respectively. they both finish with 15 rounds. in this example, billy did more work due to the fact he had to move his bodyweight farther and longer, even though they both completed 15 rounds.
for heavy days and when moving heavy loads, some benchmarks that one should strive for performing are moving your bodyweight, 1.5x your bodyweight, 2x your bodyweight and so on. how fast how far and how long are the questions that need to be asked and the answers will give you the power output.
it really is difficult to gauge and calculate strength and power output especially when factoring the load moved and the height/weight of the individuals. but relative/raw strength, not power, can easily be gauged by strength to weight.
FHS Lacrosse gets some
name/bdywt
ReplyDeletedeadlift/hang power clean
kyle/195
225/95
joe s/157
285/125
jeff/160
325/135
brian m/195
285/115
matt n/179
345/205
chuck/158/71 years old
165/75
russ/158/back in the mix
365pr/165
dr j/175
445pr/175
jon/150
325pr/145
jason/153
295/155
caleb/165
295/155
skeet/210
240/95
zach/189
415pr/215pr
jv/125
295/145
meghan/140
225/110
jb/215
360/195
alex/195
360/115
kohl/265
485/225
angela
200/85
james/165
225/125
ben/180
435/135
GREAT JOB ON ALL THE PERSONAL RECORDs (PR's) THAT WERE SET TODAY.
on another note, there are a couple items i'd like to address and now is a good time, otherwise i'll forget to bring it up:
1) leave your ego at the door. just because someone has a heavier lift or faster time than you doesn't always mean that you can outlift them or get a faster time. if you're first instinct is to look on the board to find the heaviest lift and tell yourself "im gonna beat that" then you either have an insecurity issue or an attitude problem. the reason this is a negative quality is because it fosters the exact attitude we will not stand for in this gym. secondly, its a quick way to get yourself some rhabdo or seriously hurt. its one thing to be highly competitive and confident and another to be the opposite end of that spectrum.
2) strength to weight ratio. there were some heavy lifts today. what you want to look at is the bodyweight of the individuals and compare that to the weight they moved. if a 125lb person can lift 2x their bodyweight, that tells me that he/she is very strong pound for pound. if a 260lb person can only lift over half their bodyweight then clearly, pound for pound, he/she isn't as strong as the 125lb person even though they might have had a heavier load. strength to weight ratio...google it.
Well spoken, on both points.
ReplyDeleteWhen comparing the performance (or "strength") between two athletes, there is more that need be considered than simply body weight and mass lifted. The height must also be taken into consideration, as there is considerable difference between someone who is 6 ft tall and 150lbs vs 5 ft tall and 150 lbs. you would never call somebody "fat" b/c they weigh 175 lbs without knowing their height. Thus we use the "Body mass index" (weight per unit height) to classify body habitus. height plays a significant role in powerlifting in both mechanical advantage as well as work/power output. Remeber from physics that work=force x distance. Taller atheltes have to make the [weight] travel farther and excert more work for a given lift compared to their shorter counterpart. As one can see, comparing strength fairly and objectively is very difficult. Use the performance of others to guide your own performance and not to conclude who is stronger or faster.
ReplyDeletegood point dr j. range of motion is definitely a factor in comparing strength. as you stated, this comes more into play when discussing power. so whats the difference between strength and power?
ReplyDeletestrength - ability of a muscle to apply force (either lifting, pushing or pulling).
power - ability of a muscle to apply MAXIMUM force in MINIMUM time.
so what does that mean? an example of strength is a 1RM deadlift. an example of power is 10 reps of 75% your 1RM deadlift in a given time, or more easily put, how quickly you can demonstrate your strength.
as dr j stated earlier, someone who has a longer range of motion has to exert more work in order to move a load from point A to point B. if two people weigh the same but one is taller than the other, the tallest person will for the most part have to work harder than the shorter person.
case in point: billy and todd both weigh 175lbs. billy is 6ft and todd is 5'7. they both do 'cindy' for a workout which is a 20 minute amrap triplet consisting of 5 pull ups, 10 push ups and 15 squats respectively. they both finish with 15 rounds. in this example, billy did more work due to the fact he had to move his bodyweight farther and longer, even though they both completed 15 rounds.
for heavy days and when moving heavy loads, some benchmarks that one should strive for performing are moving your bodyweight, 1.5x your bodyweight, 2x your bodyweight and so on. how fast how far and how long are the questions that need to be asked and the answers will give you the power output.
it really is difficult to gauge and calculate strength and power output especially when factoring the load moved and the height/weight of the individuals. but relative/raw strength, not power, can easily be gauged by strength to weight.
just my opinions,
rudy
a little friendly competition never hurt anyone.
ReplyDeleteOh yes it has
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